Comments on: Ireland: The Inside Story http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2009/04/16/ireland-the-inside-story/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:53:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Tom Spencer http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2009/04/16/ireland-the-inside-story/#comment-5644 Tom Spencer Mon, 20 Apr 2009 05:50:37 +0000 http://www.irisheconomy.ie/?p=1794#comment-5644 Especially an Ireland economy? Especially an Ireland economy?

]]> By: Brian J Goggin (bjg) http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2009/04/16/ireland-the-inside-story/#comment-5527 Brian J Goggin (bjg) Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:40:24 +0000 http://www.irisheconomy.ie/?p=1794#comment-5527 @Karl Deeter "nationalisation, what a great idea if pandering to the will of ‘the people’ was the aim." Don't we have this sort of like democracy thing? Vox populi, vox dei. "protecting the taxpayer isn’t the point, ensuring our banking system survives in a meaningful manner is," Sez who? I mean, there are more taxpayers than there are banking systems. And given the present banking system, I'm not sure that I want to preserve it. We can always get banks from elsewhere, or grow our own. As a non-shareholder, I won't in that capacity be burned by Anglo or any other bank, so as a taxpayer I don't see why I should give Anglo or any otber bank a long-term opportunity to burn me. Avoiding having to shoulder the losses of bank shareholders or property speculators seems to me to be a free-market position, if not that of a capitalist. bjg @Karl Deeter “nationalisation, what a great idea if pandering to the will of ‘the people’ was the aim.”

Don’t we have this sort of like democracy thing? Vox populi, vox dei.

“protecting the taxpayer isn’t the point, ensuring our banking system survives in a meaningful manner is,”

Sez who? I mean, there are more taxpayers than there are banking systems. And given the present banking system, I’m not sure that I want to preserve it. We can always get banks from elsewhere, or grow our own.

As a non-shareholder, I won’t in that capacity be burned by Anglo or any other bank, so as a taxpayer I don’t see why I should give Anglo or any otber bank a long-term opportunity to burn me. Avoiding having to shoulder the losses of bank shareholders or property speculators seems to me to be a free-market position, if not that of a capitalist.

bjg

]]> By: karl deeter http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2009/04/16/ireland-the-inside-story/#comment-5504 karl deeter Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:19:52 +0000 http://www.irisheconomy.ie/?p=1794#comment-5504 nationalisation, what a great idea if pandering to the will of 'the people' was the aim. What any kind of 'take over' would do in the current environment would be to ruin Ireland's financial institutions as a viable option for investors, and that would play through to the rest of the country too. Are there any capitalists left? Are we all becoming Socialists as well as Keynesians? As a shareholder I'll only be burned by any given bank bank once, Anglo won't ever get another investment penny from me so the argument of 'we'll give them back when the good times come' just doesn't wash. protecting the taxpayer isn't the point, ensuring our banking system survives in a meaningful manner is, and unfortunately the two are not synchronised, Bacon got it right, he's not a 'moralist'. nationalisation, what a great idea if pandering to the will of ‘the people’ was the aim. What any kind of ‘take over’ would do in the current environment would be to ruin Ireland’s financial institutions as a viable option for investors, and that would play through to the rest of the country too.

Are there any capitalists left? Are we all becoming Socialists as well as Keynesians?

As a shareholder I’ll only be burned by any given bank bank once, Anglo won’t ever get another investment penny from me so the argument of ‘we’ll give them back when the good times come’ just doesn’t wash.

protecting the taxpayer isn’t the point, ensuring our banking system survives in a meaningful manner is, and unfortunately the two are not synchronised, Bacon got it right, he’s not a ‘moralist’.

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