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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-130308</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The German bully Mrs. Merkel and French Nicolas Sarkozy and the rest bullied the Irish to vote for the Lisbon treaty. Most views in Ireland now is we wish we were like the UK had or own currency back leave the EU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The German bully Mrs. Merkel and French Nicolas Sarkozy and the rest bullied the Irish to vote for the Lisbon treaty. Most views in Ireland now is we wish we were like the UK had or own currency back leave the EU.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailout blues &#124; Rachel Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailout blues &#124; Rachel Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Handelsblatt: The Rescue Deal for Ireland is a Disaster &#124; rebel-alliance.org</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-109154</link>
		<dc:creator>Handelsblatt: The Rescue Deal for Ireland is a Disaster &#124; rebel-alliance.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Politics.ie, an English translation by Kevin O&#8217;Rourke at The Irish Economy blog, of Barry Eichengreen&#8217;s piece at the German language Handelsblatt (making reference to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Politics.ie, an English translation by Kevin O&#8217;Rourke at The Irish Economy blog, of Barry Eichengreen&#8217;s piece at the German language Handelsblatt (making reference to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bill Tormey &#187; This a copy of a post from Irisheconomy.ie by a US Economist writing in Handelsblatt (in German)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Bill Tormey &#187; This a copy of a post from Irisheconomy.ie by a US Economist writing in Handelsblatt (in German)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian J Goggin</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-107034</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J Goggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill Tormey:
"Fine Gael is in the position of probably not being able to state this truth at the moment."

Haven't we had enough of keeping stumm, of "whatever you say, say nothing", of getting elected first and telling the truth afterwards? The good guys of the economic crisis are those who have been willing to tell it as it is; some of the rest probably kept quiet out of self-interest, but even those for whom that was not true have contributed to the debasement of public debate and political culture: they have helped to maintain the Irish electorate, and the Irish state, in the condition of political immaturity that has led it to its current condition.

Let your yea be yea and your nay be nay. Speak the truth and shame the devil. Say it loud and say it clear.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill Tormey:<br />
&#8220;Fine Gael is in the position of probably not being able to state this truth at the moment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t we had enough of keeping stumm, of &#8220;whatever you say, say nothing&#8221;, of getting elected first and telling the truth afterwards? The good guys of the economic crisis are those who have been willing to tell it as it is; some of the rest probably kept quiet out of self-interest, but even those for whom that was not true have contributed to the debasement of public debate and political culture: they have helped to maintain the Irish electorate, and the Irish state, in the condition of political immaturity that has led it to its current condition.</p>
<p>Let your yea be yea and your nay be nay. Speak the truth and shame the devil. Say it loud and say it clear.</p>
<p>bjg [who votes only in Senate elections]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Tormey</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-107023</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Tormey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

I agree with Eichengreen. Fine Gael is in the position of probably not being able to state this truth at the moment. I have written it myself on my website. The country must get its fiscal gap down and then renegotiate. 

This side of a general election, Fine Gael cannot really say this. Afterwards they will be forced by markets and by the public to get real. If I am elected, I will ALSO force a little dose of reality into the procedings. As it is Noonan, Varadkar, Hayes, Bruton are easily the best Economic Team in Irish politics. That is obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I agree with Eichengreen. Fine Gael is in the position of probably not being able to state this truth at the moment. I have written it myself on my website. The country must get its fiscal gap down and then renegotiate. </p>
<p>This side of a general election, Fine Gael cannot really say this. Afterwards they will be forced by markets and by the public to get real. If I am elected, I will ALSO force a little dose of reality into the procedings. As it is Noonan, Varadkar, Hayes, Bruton are easily the best Economic Team in Irish politics. That is obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Cunneen</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-106512</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Cunneen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actions of the ECB or perhaps more accuretly the Bundesbank only makes sense when you realise most of their non debt assets are under Manhattan island.
As I have said before there is a very simple mechanism to re balance the books - its been done in the past.
The Bundesbank is up shit creek without a paddle as Ben B is now acting in a nationalistic manner given his QE II policey of buying treasuries solely rather then crap securities.
The Germans are in a very weak postion - their only hope is that their Paddy "partners" continue to repay overvalued debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actions of the ECB or perhaps more accuretly the Bundesbank only makes sense when you realise most of their non debt assets are under Manhattan island.<br />
As I have said before there is a very simple mechanism to re balance the books - its been done in the past.<br />
The Bundesbank is up shit creek without a paddle as Ben B is now acting in a nationalistic manner given his QE II policey of buying treasuries solely rather then crap securities.<br />
The Germans are in a very weak postion - their only hope is that their Paddy &#8220;partners&#8221; continue to repay overvalued debt.</p>
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		<title>By: EU&#8217;s &#8220;Irish debt crisis&#8221;&#8211;could Irish refusal of EU debt slavery, refusal to bail out bond holders, bring down the euro? &#171; Dregs of the Future</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-105186</link>
		<dc:creator>EU&#8217;s &#8220;Irish debt crisis&#8221;&#8211;could Irish refusal of EU debt slavery, refusal to bail out bond holders, bring down the euro? &#171; Dregs of the Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Problem Solving 101: The European intent, identical to the US program, is not to solve the problems of the European banks but to find ways of papering the problems over through bailouts – Greece, Ireland, the rest of the batting order to come.  The bailouts are loans that will eventually have to be &#8216;rescheduled&#8217;.  But eventually is another day, and that&#8217;s the object  of the exercise. (Source) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Problem Solving 101: The European intent, identical to the US program, is not to solve the problems of the European banks but to find ways of papering the problems over through bailouts – Greece, Ireland, the rest of the batting order to come.  The bailouts are loans that will eventually have to be &#8216;rescheduled&#8217;.  But eventually is another day, and that&#8217;s the object  of the exercise. (Source) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EWI</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103596</link>
		<dc:creator>EWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ AMMcgrath

&lt;i&gt;I’m going to stop reading this stuff it’s making my head hurt - and please can someone come up with a better economic term than “kicking the can down the road”.&lt;/i&gt;

How about: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Making a Hail Mary pass"&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ AMMcgrath</p>
<p><i>I’m going to stop reading this stuff it’s making my head hurt - and please can someone come up with a better economic term than “kicking the can down the road”.</i></p>
<p>How about: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Making a Hail Mary pass&#8221;</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian J Goggin</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103394</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J Goggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scotlyn:
Well, the petitioners quote Bunreacht na hEireann Article 45.4.1 thusly:

"The State pledges itself to safeguard with especial care the economic interests of the weaker sections of the community, and, where necessary, to contribute to the support of the infirm, the widow, the orphan, and the aged."

At this moment, few are weaker than bank shareholders, and the Article puts their interests above those of "the infirm, the widow, the orphan, and the aged".

bjg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scotlyn:<br />
Well, the petitioners quote Bunreacht na hEireann Article 45.4.1 thusly:</p>
<p>&#8220;The State pledges itself to safeguard with especial care the economic interests of the weaker sections of the community, and, where necessary, to contribute to the support of the infirm, the widow, the orphan, and the aged.&#8221;</p>
<p>At this moment, few are weaker than bank shareholders, and the Article puts their interests above those of &#8220;the infirm, the widow, the orphan, and the aged&#8221;.</p>
<p>bjg</p>
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		<title>By: Scotlyn</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103253</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does &lt;a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/IRpres10/petition.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; count as "populist backlash"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/IRpres10/petition.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> count as &#8220;populist backlash&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ireland’s rescue package: Disaster for Ireland, bad omen for the Eurozone &#171; The Berkeley Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103245</link>
		<dc:creator>Ireland’s rescue package: Disaster for Ireland, bad omen for the Eurozone &#171; The Berkeley Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted in German on Handelsbatt’s blog and reposted first in English by Kevin O’Rourke on the Irish Economy blog.    var addthis_pub="ucberkeley"; var addthis_options = 'digg, email, facebook, furl, google, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad De Long: Wichtige Blogbeitr&#228;ge zu Irland (Firestorm and Contagion) &#124; Ulrich Fritsche</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103170</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad De Long: Wichtige Blogbeitr&#228;ge zu Irland (Firestorm and Contagion) &#124; Ulrich Fritsche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Irish bailout: he Irish “rescue package” finalized over the weekend is a disaster&#8230;. It pains me to say this. I’m probably the most pro-euro economist on my side of the Atlantic. Not because I think the euro area is the perfect monetary union, but because I have always thought that a Europe of scores of national currencies would be even less stable. I’m also a believer in the larger European project. But given this abject failure of European and German leadership, I am going to have to rethink my position. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Irish bailout: he Irish “rescue package” finalized over the weekend is a disaster&#8230;. It pains me to say this. I’m probably the most pro-euro economist on my side of the Atlantic. Not because I think the euro area is the perfect monetary union, but because I have always thought that a Europe of scores of national currencies would be even less stable. I’m also a believer in the larger European project. But given this abject failure of European and German leadership, I am going to have to rethink my position. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trojan Horace</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103157</link>
		<dc:creator>Trojan Horace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Excuse typos... ack</description>
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		<title>By: Trojan Horace</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103150</link>
		<dc:creator>Trojan Horace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Euro is going to need to stay competitive against the US dollar because Germany’s exports into the US demand it. When the Fed announces that it’s prepared to take National Debt up past ten trillion by printing dollars, the ECB is going to need to take appropriate measures to ensure that the relative values don’t move outside agreed parameters. If Ireland hadn’t been a problem, they’d have had to invent one. Spain, if it really turns out to be in the ditch, is going to involve a LOT of printing… but it probably won’t be expensive.. it’ll track US printing. 

The EU has almost as much insane immunity with their currency to gamble with as the US Treasury. About 60% of global foreign exchange reserves are held in dollar-denominated instruments and about half as much again held in Euros. This isn't a currency that's going to go to the wall... it's out of the question. It can no more be uninvented than the idea that a Federal State in the US could decide to start their own currency again... which would be fun - but it isn't going to happen.  The reality is that even if they have to bail out Spain and will probably largely print to do it... if it means a modest adjustment of comparable values between the dollar and the euro (and it probably won't because of dollar printing) so be it. Chine will sooner or later have something to say about the value of their savings depreciating but that's another matter. 

As this piece rightly points out, though in an exaggerated comparison with reparations at Versailles, the public in Europe will effectively and patiently organise at a grass roots level, to prevent their politicians pushing their agenda through... printing will look like the easier route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Euro is going to need to stay competitive against the US dollar because Germany’s exports into the US demand it. When the Fed announces that it’s prepared to take National Debt up past ten trillion by printing dollars, the ECB is going to need to take appropriate measures to ensure that the relative values don’t move outside agreed parameters. If Ireland hadn’t been a problem, they’d have had to invent one. Spain, if it really turns out to be in the ditch, is going to involve a LOT of printing… but it probably won’t be expensive.. it’ll track US printing. </p>
<p>The EU has almost as much insane immunity with their currency to gamble with as the US Treasury. About 60% of global foreign exchange reserves are held in dollar-denominated instruments and about half as much again held in Euros. This isn&#8217;t a currency that&#8217;s going to go to the wall&#8230; it&#8217;s out of the question. It can no more be uninvented than the idea that a Federal State in the US could decide to start their own currency again&#8230; which would be fun - but it isn&#8217;t going to happen.  The reality is that even if they have to bail out Spain and will probably largely print to do it&#8230; if it means a modest adjustment of comparable values between the dollar and the euro (and it probably won&#8217;t because of dollar printing) so be it. Chine will sooner or later have something to say about the value of their savings depreciating but that&#8217;s another matter. </p>
<p>As this piece rightly points out, though in an exaggerated comparison with reparations at Versailles, the public in Europe will effectively and patiently organise at a grass roots level, to prevent their politicians pushing their agenda through&#8230; printing will look like the easier route.</p>
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		<title>By: George  J. Georganas</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-103145</link>
		<dc:creator>George  J. Georganas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The end of the road ... Kingdom come, financial millenarianism ... Hard to believe that this passes for financial analysis and reporting in ceratin publications. On the evidence so far, the financially ignorant seem to do much better the supposedly financially knowledgeable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of the road &#8230; Kingdom come, financial millenarianism &#8230; Hard to believe that this passes for financial analysis and reporting in ceratin publications. On the evidence so far, the financially ignorant seem to do much better the supposedly financially knowledgeable</p>
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		<title>By: anton kleinschmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>anton kleinschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of references to cans being kicked down the road. Unfortunately this seems to have become the preferred option of the financially ignorant. At some point in the near future all the can kickers from the developed world will reach the end of the road at about the same time only to find a jumble of cans all filled with worms. There are no solutions and this has to play itself out. The biggest can kicker may still prove to be China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of references to cans being kicked down the road. Unfortunately this seems to have become the preferred option of the financially ignorant. At some point in the near future all the can kickers from the developed world will reach the end of the road at about the same time only to find a jumble of cans all filled with worms. There are no solutions and this has to play itself out. The biggest can kicker may still prove to be China</p>
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		<title>By: Yglesias&#38;raquo; The Questionable Prudence of the Savers &#171; Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yglesias&#38;raquo; The Questionable Prudence of the Savers &#171; Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But to speak up for technocratic economists, the problem issue is that to effect political change you need both populist anger and also some kind of technically workable program. We need people to be angry, and we need moralistic challenges, but then we needideas from Barry Eichengreen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But to speak up for technocratic economists, the problem issue is that to effect political change you need both populist anger and also some kind of technically workable program. We need people to be angry, and we need moralistic challenges, but then we needideas from Barry Eichengreen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ireland’s Rescue Package: Disaster for Ireland, bad Omen for the Eurozone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ireland’s Rescue Package: Disaster for Ireland, bad Omen for the Eurozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted in German on Handelsbatt’s blog and reposted first in English by Kevin O’Rourke on the Irish Economy blog. Republished from voxeu.org  Print  PDF  Related posts:Ireland, Bond Markets and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted in German on Handelsbatt’s blog and reposted first in English by Kevin O’Rourke on the Irish Economy blog. Republished from voxeu.org  Print  PDF  Related posts:Ireland, Bond Markets and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tax Research UK &#187; Ireland&#8217;s bail out will fail &#8211; others agree</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-102888</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax Research UK &#187; Ireland&#8217;s bail out will fail &#8211; others agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] glad to note I am not alone. Take this from Barry Eichengreen in an article entitled “Ireland’s Reparations Burden”: The Irish “rescue package” finalized over the weekend is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Economic Superheroes Suspect Supervillain Behind Global Economic Policy &#171; Views from the Lifeboat</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-102857</link>
		<dc:creator>Economic Superheroes Suspect Supervillain Behind Global Economic Policy &#171; Views from the Lifeboat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up. “They’ve even gotten to the ECB now. Its handling of the Irish crisis has been all wrong. They’ve never missed an opportunity to make things worse and now we’re facing a total collapse of the Eurozone, with all the economic hardship and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up. “They’ve even gotten to the ECB now. Its handling of the Irish crisis has been all wrong. They’ve never missed an opportunity to make things worse and now we’re facing a total collapse of the Eurozone, with all the economic hardship and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Gold Standard &#187; Canonical bailouts</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gold Standard &#187; Canonical bailouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a German newspaper, well translated by another famous economist Kevin O&#8217; Rourke, is available here. He is angry. You should read it yourself and draw your own conclusions. In the past, IMF bailouts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a German newspaper, well translated by another famous economist Kevin O&#8217; Rourke, is available here. He is angry. You should read it yourself and draw your own conclusions. In the past, IMF bailouts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthless truth telling &#124; Ulrich Fritsche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthless truth telling &#124; Ulrich Fritsche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beitrag ist im Handelsblatt und auf Kevin O’ Rourkes Blog Irisheconomy erschienen. Ich dokumentiere die deutsche Fassung: Das Rettungspaket für Irland ist ein Desaster. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Beitrag ist im Handelsblatt und auf Kevin O’ Rourkes Blog Irisheconomy erschienen. Ich dokumentiere die deutsche Fassung: Das Rettungspaket für Irland ist ein Desaster. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George  J. Georganas</title>
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		<dc:creator>George  J. Georganas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a mystery how some people can be liquidationist in one continent and can-kickers in another. If Irish banks had to be left to fail, why was letting Lehman fold wrong ? Does Professor Eichengreen now think TARP was wrong ? Banking is nothing more complicated than kicking the can down the road for ever and ever. Real trouble starts, once one begins to try to look virtuous by picking the can up and putting it in the rubbish bin. Deleveraging, purge the rotteness out of the system and the like. Essentially, liquidationists want the EU to do a Ceauşescu. Unvirtuous nations should not borrow, ever, goes the tune. A very sorry sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a mystery how some people can be liquidationist in one continent and can-kickers in another. If Irish banks had to be left to fail, why was letting Lehman fold wrong ? Does Professor Eichengreen now think TARP was wrong ? Banking is nothing more complicated than kicking the can down the road for ever and ever. Real trouble starts, once one begins to try to look virtuous by picking the can up and putting it in the rubbish bin. Deleveraging, purge the rotteness out of the system and the like. Essentially, liquidationists want the EU to do a Ceauşescu. Unvirtuous nations should not borrow, ever, goes the tune. A very sorry sight.</p>
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		<title>By: William Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irish voters, get angry and get out to vote in a new party with leaders that know something about economics/finance and have the following agenda: 
1) get out of the Euro, negotiate to stay in EC (like Sweden and UK), 
2) bring back the Irish Punt and devalue 20-40% against the Euro, 
3) renegotiate the bail-out plan and force haircuts on the bank bondholders, 
4) have government form agency to promote export growth and tourism, and 
5) heavily regulate banking and speculation in property.  
Yes, this will be painful...but no more so than that of a lost generation or two of depression economics, which is where we are headed.  
All we have to lose is ... our shackles ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irish voters, get angry and get out to vote in a new party with leaders that know something about economics/finance and have the following agenda:<br />
1) get out of the Euro, negotiate to stay in EC (like Sweden and UK),<br />
2) bring back the Irish Punt and devalue 20-40% against the Euro,<br />
3) renegotiate the bail-out plan and force haircuts on the bank bondholders,<br />
4) have government form agency to promote export growth and tourism, and<br />
5) heavily regulate banking and speculation in property.<br />
Yes, this will be painful&#8230;but no more so than that of a lost generation or two of depression economics, which is where we are headed.<br />
All we have to lose is &#8230; our shackles &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: g kelsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>g kelsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eurozone default. ecb has taken a loss of 1/2 a trillion since the crisis began. If you add all the debt outstanding of the weaker countries it would be 8 trillion.(why default would probably cause a meltdown)  RTE news at 9pm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eurozone default. ecb has taken a loss of 1/2 a trillion since the crisis began. If you add all the debt outstanding of the weaker countries it would be 8 trillion.(why default would probably cause a meltdown)  RTE news at 9pm</p>
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		<title>By: Yglesias &#187; The Questionable Prudence of the Savers</title>
		<link>http://www.irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2010/12/01/barry-eichengreen-on-the-irish-bailout/#comment-102683</link>
		<dc:creator>Yglesias &#187; The Questionable Prudence of the Savers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] workable program. We need people to be angry, and we need moralistic challenges, but then we need ideas from Barry Eichengreen.   Tweet    SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "The Questionable Prudence of the Savers", url: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] workable program. We need people to be angry, and we need moralistic challenges, but then we need ideas from Barry Eichengreen.   Tweet    SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &#8220;The Questionable Prudence of the Savers&#8221;, url: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AMcGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMcGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bjg
Obscure - thought you were maiking it up there for a minute 7  outof 10
@Hugh Sheehy
"moving the bodies..." good one but maybe only accurate in some circumstances!

My own offering is "irresolution" especially for the failure to introduce resolution regime
heres a few synonyms for irresolution from the online thesaurus
Synonyms: 	averseness, dawdling, delay, delaying, demurral, doubt, dubiety, equivocation, faltering, fluctuation, fumbling, hemming and hawing, hesitancy, indecision, indecisiveness, indisposition, irresoluteness, misgiving, mistrust, oscillation, pause, procrastination , qualm, reluctance, scruple, shilly-shally, skepticism, stammering, stumbling, stuttering, tentativeness, timidity, timidness, to-and-fro, unwillingness, vacillation, wavering 

@Eoin
I suspected as much - but the "Irish" threw me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bjg<br />
Obscure - thought you were maiking it up there for a minute 7  outof 10<br />
@Hugh Sheehy<br />
&#8220;moving the bodies&#8230;&#8221; good one but maybe only accurate in some circumstances!</p>
<p>My own offering is &#8220;irresolution&#8221; especially for the failure to introduce resolution regime<br />
heres a few synonyms for irresolution from the online thesaurus<br />
Synonyms: 	averseness, dawdling, delay, delaying, demurral, doubt, dubiety, equivocation, faltering, fluctuation, fumbling, hemming and hawing, hesitancy, indecision, indecisiveness, indisposition, irresoluteness, misgiving, mistrust, oscillation, pause, procrastination , qualm, reluctance, scruple, shilly-shally, skepticism, stammering, stumbling, stuttering, tentativeness, timidity, timidness, to-and-fro, unwillingness, vacillation, wavering </p>
<p>@Eoin<br />
I suspected as much - but the &#8220;Irish&#8221; threw me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bjg - cunctation.....

You learn something new every day!

Not a word to give to a Guardian typesetter though :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bjg - cunctation&#8230;..</p>
<p>You learn something new every day!</p>
<p>Not a word to give to a Guardian typesetter though <img src='http://www.irisheconomy.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up on Rory O'Farrell's comment, perhaps there was too much emphasis on French and German in Irish schools and not enough on Economics and Maths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on Rory O&#8217;Farrell&#8217;s comment, perhaps there was too much emphasis on French and German in Irish schools and not enough on Economics and Maths.</p>
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