2011 Census Results

Today the CSO begin their release of the detailed results (schedule) from last April’s Census with the publication of This is Ireland (Part 1)There is lots of information in the volume and here is just one table that reflects a point made in the press release.

I couldn’t see the equivalent 1996 numbers in a quick search and the category on “Being purchased from a Local Authority” was not used in the 2011 Census so the “Rented from Local Authority” figure is presumably the sum of earlier categories.  The “Rented from a Voluntary/Cooperative Body” first appeared in the 2006 Census and the initial number seems high. 

As the press release highlights the big change is in the number of households renting which increased from 300,000 to almost 475,000 over five years.  It can also be seen that around 35% of households have a mortgage.  There were 290,000 vacant units on Census night.

28 thoughts on “2011 Census Results”

  1. @ Eureka

    hahaha i was just gonna post a “JtO would love this thread” comment. I miss him.

  2. If renting from a private landlord more than doubled from 145k to 305k how come I keep reading about buy-to-let mortgages in particular struggling? What am I missing?

  3. The staff of the CSO are to complimented for producing this set of results in such as=n accessible form in less than 12 months since Census Day.

  4. @PR Guy

    If renting from a private landlord more than doubled from 145k to 305k how come I keep reading about buy-to-let mortgages in particular struggling? What am I missing?

    This is just a guess but I suspect that the properties that people want to live in are not the ones that the recent property-owning capitalism spasm remortgaged their houses to buy.

    Leeson Street Lower, ten minutes walk from the centre of Ireland’s capital, is still filled with profitable and densely packed accommodation last renovated sometime in the nineteen eighties and no doubt owned by an older generation of rack renters. Visit a three bedroom flat occupied by six young immigrants who serve the insiders their caramel lattes and you can not but feel ashamed.

    The new class of would be property investors bought overpriced, poorly noise proofed, undersized modern apartments and toy timber framed houses in areas further from the city centre or amenities. Employed people simply would not choose to live in these places and rent allowance will not meet the mortgage payments.

  5. @Seamus

    Thank you for this analysis.

    Perhaps at some future stage (when you have time obviously) it would be possible to analyse the 16 -66 age group figures and how this actually translates into unemployment percentages for 1st Quarter 2012. IMHO it might actually emerge (however I have not seen population figures for that age group) that when quarterly national household survey results come out (in May?) unemploymet for 1st Quarter 2012 may actually be around 12.5%.

    Two other figures also grabbed my attention when reading various media reports/summaries of the census figures. The first concerned house occupany/vacancy and the second concerned immigration:

    1) House “vacancy” appears to be at around 14% at national level but since figures for Leitrim and Donegal (holiday homes/ghost estates abandoned properties etc ?) stand at 30% and 29% respectively. It would therefore be interesting to have some analyses on actual “vacancy” rates in major urban centres and what purpose those “vacant “houses are being used for.

    2) Immigration figures seem to be very interesting with the percentage of “people born outside Ireland” standing at 17%.
    Of course “born outside Ireland” also includes children of one time Irish emigrants/international assignments etc who have one or more Irish parent(s) and have actually spent a significant part of thieir life living, working and studying in Ireland. However when we “factor out” people in that category we may still have an immigrant population of 15%.
    Since we know that more immigrants tend to go to large urban areas and less go to rural areas because of work opportunities I wonder if more detailed analyses would reveal (as with housing “vacancies”) variations as wide as 10% of certain rural populations being composed of immigrants and 25-30% of certain urban populations (eg Dublin) being composed of immigrants?

    Best…L 🙂

    P.S. I also noticed that the census figures revealed interesting results about the variety of languages spoken in the home.

  6. It’s good to see the preliminary results of the Census largely borne out by today’s full results. I also like that Ireland’s population is closer to 5 than 4 million now and that all the emigration of the last few years haven’t dealt the Irish population the mortal blow we might have expected. Dublin has also seen a decent increase, which is the fastest rate of the five cities of Ireland so that’s good too. It’ll be fascinating to see the results of Census 2016 five years from now to see if the emigration has an effect on those figures. I’d feel that they’ll have less of an effect than is feared – look at today’s figures – Ireland’s population grew during the last period of emigration in the 1980s. Natural increase in the Irish population is astonishing which will probably overcome the effect of net emigration and we’ll see a population of 4.8 million by the time of the next census.

  7. @ PR Guy
    230,000 empty houses that are not holiday homes.

    The population increase owes as much to decreasing death rate as increasing birth rate. We are catching up with Europe in this regard.
    A nice upshot of Men starting to live longer is that there has not been an increase in widows. The amount of people living alone is very high all the same. Quite sad.

  8. the category ‘being purchased from a local authority’ refers to former local authority tenants who have bought their home from the council, therefore this category should be added to mortgage holders, not renters. Categorised this way the absolute number of mortgage holders owners remained static between 2006 and 2011.

    Management data on voluntary housing bodies indicates that the 2006 census numbers for this category were unreasonably high and the 2011 figures are too low. However the totals numbers of social housing tenants identified in the census (ie. LA+vol) does relect the numbers identified in management data. I think this question is unclear and some voluntary sector tenants inaccurately categorise themselves as local authority tenants and vice/versa.

  9. @Michelle

    “the category ‘being purchased from a local authority’ refers to former local authority tenants who have bought their home from the council, therefore this category should be added to mortgage holders, not renters. Categorised this way the absolute number of mortgage holders owners remained static between 2006 and 2011.”

    Thank you for that. I also speculated that might be the case but did not have enough information.:)

  10. @David
    Fascinating interactive David.

    The vast swaths of nomans land with 20% / 30% pop growth since 2002 is both striking and funny in a sick sort of way.

    Meanwhile citys such as Cork , Limerick & Waterford experience a decline especially in their tradional boundaries – even the centres of market towns such as Tralee & Midleton have experienced a decline making rail transport growth impossible under present conditions.
    But this madness must end soon as the 5billion+ imports of oil and rising will make these new developments the famine houses of the 21rst century.

  11. The language results are fascinating.
    The number returned as speaking a ‘foreign’language [that is, neither Irish nor English] at home was 514,000 of which 120,000 spoke Polish.
    Unfortunately, we do not have a comparable figure for the number who speak Irish as the home language.
    We do learn that 77,000 speak Irish ‘daily, outside the educational system’.
    Making some allowance for the fact that some of these ‘daily’ Irish speakers may not belong to Irish-speaking households (using the language only with friends outside the home) it is quite possible that the number of Polish-speaking households in the country is now twice the number of Irish-speaking households.
    What an extraordinary reflection on our efforts to promote Irish as the first or main language of the country!

  12. @The Dork

    We’re living in some class of a delusional Matrix … a matrixsQuidesque Matrix … and there are more of us down the rabbit hole and no one seems to be able to figure out how far down the rabbit hole goes ….

  13. @David
    Its a Jackson Pollock…………….. a mess pretending to be art

    It appears to be credible in a pretentious world but when the reality of the situation kicks in it will be regarded as a Joke – a very sick joke.

    We have probally the craziest settlement pattern in the world – a product of a completly unsustainable credit / oil orgy.

  14. @Livonian

    I wouldn’t be sure of the new population figures impacting the labour market numbers too much – the difference between the initial census estimate and the more recent annual population & migration estimate was 97,000 (if I remember correctly) but that’ll be split over the 5 years in between censuses. Unfortunately we don’t get employment results until July.

    On your point about level of vacancies in population centres, the excellent AIRO maps might be useful? http://www.airo.ie/mapping-module/census

  15. That All Ireland research lab is fantastic.

    But can anyone explain the complete dearth of RoI transport stats since 2008/9 ?

    I can look at N.I. Transport stats and see a continual rise of rail passenger numbers but I can’t seem to get southern Irish Data ….. am I missing something or is there a shutdown of info or what ?
    Using end of financial year results March 31 – I can see N.I. railway results

    Rail passenger journeys (millions) Y2009-10 :10m / Y2010 – 11 : 10.4m
    Passenger miles (millions) Y2009 -10 : 172.3m / Y2010 – 11 : 190.5m
    Passenger receipts (£thousands) Y2009 -10 : 28,461 / Y2010 -11 : 31,588

    The Year 2010/11 results are all record numbers.

    Meanwhile the more up to date oct / dec quarterly Y2011 are again showing strong growth over and above these figures while N.I. car registrations are declining and bus travel stagnating ( a clear sign of service substitution due to the UK monetory & fuel price envoirment)
    1. Weekly average rail passenger miles have increased 8% to 4.09m from 3.78m when compared to the corresponding quarter in 2010.
    2.Weekly average rail passenger journeys have increased 5% to .22Million from .21Million in the last quarter of 2010.
    3. Weekly average rail passenger receipts up by 5 % to .66 £Million from .63£M

    Meanwhile there appears to be a sort of CSO blackout on transport stats – Am I missing something ? – if so please could someone please direct me to recent southern Irish transport stats.

  16. @ all

    That excellent interactive map linked by DoD is powered by ESRI.

    If I might remind you, JtO said he was a digital map maker working for ESRI – not that one. His spirit would sem to live on.

  17. @Michelle
    “the category ‘being purchased from a local authority’ refers to former local authority tenants who have bought their home from the council, therefore this category should be added to mortgage holders, not renters. ”
    That would surely depend on whether they have a mortgage or other loan secured on the purchase.

    I think taking the national average and adding 35% to homes with a mortgage and 65% to owner occupied would be closer?

  18. The number of vacant units under all headings (including holiday homes 10,000 units) has increased since 2006 by only 24,000 units and considering the enormous number of units that came on the market in 2006/7and 2007/2008 the housing supply/demand market must now be close to equilibrium. As less than 4,000 units are now being constructed ,mostly one off units in farming areas, the housing market is going to change dramatically as soon as mortgage credit becomes more available.

  19. Looking at population declines in tradional urban centres in the south……… not a pretty picture for us rail fans…………

    New Ross Urban Y2011 : 3,907 Y2002 : 4,402 decline : -495 / – 11.2% (although some growth on the west bank of the river – near future station ?)

    Wexford no1 urban Y2011 : 1,581 Y2002 :1,846 decline : -265 / -14.4%
    Wexford no2 urban Y2011 : 4,126 Y2002 :4,823 decline :-697 / – 14.4 %
    Wexford no3 urban Y2011 : 1,352 Y2002 : 1,321 decline:-30 / – 2.2 %
    Midleton urban Y2011 : 3,733 Y2002 : 3,798 decline :-65 / – 1.7%

    Cobh urban Y2011 : 6,500 Y2002 :6,767 decline :-267 / – 3.9%
    Tralee urban Y2011 : 4,885 Y2002 :6,311 decline :-1426 / – 22.6% Wow !
    Mallow south urban Y2011 : 2,783 Y2002 :3,095 decline :-312 / – 10.1 %
    Clonmel west urban 2011 : 5,699 Y2002:6,530 decline :-831 / -12.7%
    Clonmel east urban Y2011 :3,922 Y2002 :4,121 decline :-199 / -4.8%

    Much more significant & extensive declines in Cork , Waterford & Limerick city districts.
    The inevitable rush back to tradional urban areas via tax fuel price increases in the euro area or euro default induced fuel price rises will come as a shock to many readers when it finally does happen.
    However if we get a full blown societal collapse I guess all areas will become dodgy from Limerick city centre to isolated farmhouses.

    @TRP
    Bank Credit requires a surplus of fuel to waste……………. I don’t see it mate.

  20. On a positive Rosslare railway note……..
    1.St Helens / Rosslare harbour Y2006 :1,907 Y2011 :2,093 increase of 9.8% or 186 souls.
    2.Rosslare Y2006 :1,791 Y2011 :2,057 increase of 14.9 % /266 persons.
    3.Bridgetown Y2006 : 747 Y2011 :855 increase of 14,5% /108
    Kilmore(adj to south of Bridgetown) Y2006 :1,924 Y2011 :2,206 increase of 15.3% /282

    4.Clongeen(inc Wellington bridge)
    Y2006 :874 Y2011 :911 increase of 4.2% / 37

    5. Tintern (inc Ballycullane)
    Y2006 :1,426 Y2011 :1,539 increase of 7.9% /113
    Killesk (adj to North of Ballycullane)
    Y2006 :642 Y2011 ;713 increase of 11.1% / 71

    6. Kilmokea (North of Campile) with what looks like(Google Earth) a partially completed estate.
    Y2006 :728 Y2011 : 814 increase of 11.8% /86
    Whitechurch (north east of Campile)
    T2006 : 541 Y2011 :586 increase of 8.3% /45
    Ballyhack (Campile and south of)
    Y2006 :1,232 Y2011 : 1302 increase of 5.7% / 70

    Maybe given the higher fuel prices & now increased population of this line since its closure in 2010 I.E / C.I.E. should look at reinstating this line in conjunction with a large single DU vehicle purchase.
    Perhaps pay Alstrom to make some Irish gauge x 73500s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suhN47IgtrE
    Will be back to look at the Youghal lines potential……..

  21. Wow – it looks really promising.
    Youghal urban has experienced real pop growth unlike many other market towns in Munster
    1. Youghal urban :Y2006 : 6,393 Y2011 :6,990, increase of 597 or 9.3%
    Youghal rural :Y2006 : 774 Y2011 :1,202 , increase of 428 or 55.3% wow !
    So total Youghal population rise since 2006 is 1,025 !

    2. Killeagh :Y2006 : 1,061 Y2011 :1,330 increase of 269 or 25.4%

    3.Mogeely : Y2006 :457 Y2011 :592 increase of 135 or 29.5%
    Castlemartyr : Y2006 :872 Y2011 :919 increase of 47 or 5.4 %

    I might add the population density of the countryside is higher in these parts then on the Waterford Rosslare route (the lghtermurragh area population growth effectivly encompases Castlemartyrs town growth during this time period)
    4. Lghtermurragh : Y2006 :1,829 Y2011 :2,340 increase of 511 or 27.9%
    But its the increase of Youghals population since 2006 that makes the reinstatement of the railway line hard to argue against in these fuel /credit starved times.

  22. On a local suburban level using 73500s type single unit vehicles the western suburbs of Limerick look promising using both the old Foynes railway route as far as Raheen Industrial estate and the Castlemungret cement factory line to the crescent shopping centre and beyond for perhaps a mile or so to encompass the outer western suburbs.

    The Castlemungret spur encompasses the ED of Ballycummin.
    Balycummin Y2002 :13,435 Y2011 : 17,490 increase of 4,055 or 30.2%

    A bus route would then service the central part of Ballycummin following the R526 to the mid western regional hospital and beyond.

    Closer to central Limerick the line passes……
    The poorer districts of Ballinacura B Y2011 :1,375 decline of -265 /-16.2%
    Rathbane Y2011 :1,567 decline of-417 / – 21%
    Glentworth A Y2011 : 498 decline of -498 / -13.7%
    Glentworth B Y2011 :1,169 decline of -237 /-16.9%
    Glentworth C Y2011 : 524 decline of-130 / -19.9 %
    Prospect B Y2011 : 751 decline of -388 / -34.1%
    Galvone A Y2011 :1,467 decline of -234 /-13.8%

    Really depressing hollowing out of the city but there has been some substancial increases in density around Colbert station especially near the peoples park since 2002.
    Dock B : Y2011 : 1,080 increase of 287 / 36.2%
    Prospect A : Y2011 : 1,039 increase of 135 / 14.9%

    Really no reason why a low capital cost single Diesel unit operation is not possible on the old western lines of Limerick.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcTV0XD5ubk

  23. Is a Luas line following the River Lee south bank viable ?
    You better believe it baby.
    Ballincollig ED Y2006 : 16,308 Y2011 : 17,965 increase of 1,657 / 10.2%

    It would be best if the line follows the straight road(muskerry line) on the Lee Fields rather then the model farm road as it is a rail rather then bus type vehicle.
    However pedestrian tracks are already partially in existence behind the CIT running track which could be linked to the Tennis village which has seen substantial growth in apartments (many empty) these past few years.
    This area would be part of Bishoptown A – so has potential for growth in numbers
    Bishoptown A : Y2011 :1,326 Y2006 : 1 ,694 decline of 368 / 21.7%

    The next stop would be at the County hall which also has a pedestrian / cyclist footpath to the Model farm road Industrial park.
    This area is encompassed by the Gillabey C district.
    Gillabbey C :Y2011 : 1,563 Y2006 :1,620 decline of 57 /3.5%

    Next stop would the Old cork Prison entry point to UCC encompassing the Mardyke & Gillabbey B
    Mardyke Y2011 :636 Y2006 : 768 decline of 132 / 7.2%
    Gillabbey B Y2011 :928 Y2006 : 1,058 decline of 130 / 12.3%

    Second UCC stop
    Gillabbey A Y2011:1,941 Y2006 :1,639 increase of 302 /18.4%

    Next stop
    The law courts Washington street
    Centre B Y2011 : 1,935 Y2006 :1,558 increase of 377 / 24.2%

    Next stop
    Grand Parade / South mall business / crime district
    Centre A Y2011 : 837 Y2006 : 791 increase of 46 or 5.8%

    Cross the river to the old Albert quay station.
    City Hall A Y2011 : 804 Y2006 :869 decrease of 65 or 7.5%
    This area includes the infamous Elysian tower which is nearly empty at the moment.

    Now follow the path of the old passage west railway via the Monahan road to the Atlantic pond and the Gaelic stadium.
    Knockrea B Y2011 : 1,114 Y2006 :1,205 decrease of 91 or 7.5%

    Next stop Blackrock station
    Mahon A Y2011 : 4,931 Y2006 : 4,206 increase of 725 or 17.2%

    Next stop mahon shopping centre
    Mahon B Y2011 :4,843 Y2006 :4,241 increase of 602 or 14.2%

    Phase 1 terminus Rochestown station
    Douglas Y2011 :20,397 y2006 : 18,182 increase of 2,215 or 12.2%
    (this is however a extensive area)

    Phase 2 would may involve the line branching as I don’t know the condition of the tunnel
    However Monkstown / Passage west Urban Y2011 :5,122 increase of 6.3% since Y2006
    Carrigaline Y2011 : 11,818 increase of 7.7% since Y2006
    Also significant development just south of carragline with strong pop growth.

    And finally Templebreedy / Crosshaven which has considerable tourist / leisure potential despite some very inappropiate development during the boom
    Y2011 :3,491 increase of 14.1 % since 2006.

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