Sale of Irish Life confirmed

This post was written by Seamus Coffey

The statement from the Minister for Finance is here.

18 Responses to “Sale of Irish Life confirmed”

  1. seafóid Says:

    The curse of Anglo. Plus they didn’t understand banking. Or European power.
    Very high non deposit funding when the tide went out.

  2. Joseph Ryan Says:

    There goes the green jersey. Whatever about the price, this is bad strategic move. We have just relieved ourselves of 37BN of the tax relieved savings of the better off Irish. Price 1.3BN less the continued tax expenditures into the future.

    Is there a cost-benefit analysis?
    Or is it simply the “right call”?

  3. seafóid Says:

    Embedded value was EUR 1.5 bn at end of 2003 . No value created since - they would have lost a good bit with the crash. 1.2 bn is probably a fair enough price after 10 lost years.

    The company was privatised in 1991 but poor old Irish Life never really knew what to do- there were various stabs at branching out of the dependence on Ireland but they were all sold off and then came the marriage with Irish Permanent where they tore the banking ar$e out of it.

    I wonder how many of the senior heads will be defenestrated.

  4. David O'Donnell Says:

    fyi

    As part of the launch of Irish Left Review Journal

    Who Benefits from Austerity?
    Councillor Catherine Connolly

    Dr. Conor McCabe

    A Talk in Charlie Byrne’s Bookshop, Middle Street Galway

    Thursday, 28th of February 2013, 6-8pm

    http://www.irishleftreview.org/2013/02/19/galway-launch-ilr-journal-councillor-catherine-connolly-charlie-bynres-bookshop-middle-st-thurs-28th-feb-6pm/

  5. David O'Donnell Says:

    fyi

    Ugliest Danish Banks Find No Buyers in Toxic Asset Trap

    ”’It was Rohde’s financial model that identified the noxious cocktail of bad assets lurking on the balance sheet of Amagerbanken A/S well before its 2011 failure. The event triggered Europe’s first senior bondholder losses in a state- backed resolution, and Rohde says more bail-ins can’t be ruled out. Legislation designed to spur mergers and avoid creditor losses will probably fall short as potential buyers balk at the prospect of absorbing toxic debt, he said.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-17/ugliest-danish-banks-find-no-buyers-in-toxic-asset-trap.html

    Senior bondholder losses? Shurely not!

  6. David O'Donnell Says:

    on Netequette

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    Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/barry-ritholtz-declares-war-on-trolls.html#ATYkxdSVBOWzuFJ3.99

  7. Mickey Hickey Says:

    Great West Life is a well run company that owns Canada Life (Ireland) which started up in Ireland in 1903. They paid what the Irish gov’t paid for Irish Life last year, that amounts to a major PR win for the gov’t.

    This is about the best outcome in the circumstances.

    Link
    http://www.bnn.ca/News/2013/2/19/Great-West-increases-Irish-presence-with-175B-deal-.aspx

  8. Muppet Says:

    The Minister is making a very big play of the fact that he got his money back. Makes it look like he was a shrewd cookie when he bought it. What is being glossed over is that the Minister bought Irish Life off himself. He set the price. This was not a purchase in the market. Good that he got his money back, for sure. Did he pay himself enough in the first place?

  9. John Corcoran Says:

    Irish Life was a successful Irish company since 1939. A sad day for Irish Life and Ireland. How Michael Noonan can spin this a success story is beyond belief.

  10. Tullmcadoo Says:

    Canada Life has been in Ireland since 1903 managing the savings of generations of Irish savers. I understand it to be a large commercial property owner in Dublin.

  11. Brian Says:

    This may be good news for the state but for original shareholders in IL&P its a total wipe out. These includes large institutional shareholders, possibly including Irish life pension funds, who for some reason voted to support the ministers original scheme to re capitalise Permanent using Irish Life. One would have thought that liquidating Permanent and keeping Irish Life, or a variation of same, would have been in their interest

    I have not seen any reports of the results of recent court cases by shareholders led by Piotr Skoczylas of scotchstone-capital against the Minister and the Directors of IL&P. Would be interested to know what happened.

  12. maestonom0 Says:

    probably a stealth scam to pull the Canadians into the euro septic tank!

  13. John Corcoran Says:

    @Tull
    The control/brain jobs and profits will be will be based at headquarters Canada–Ireland will be an outpost for their cash cow. A great deal for the Canadians.

  14. seafóid Says:

    RBS April 2010

    Irish Life & Permanent*

    “The Finance Minister’s prudent decision to seek an extension to the current
    guarantee scheme is a positive interim development, however, a ‘permanent’
    solution for IL&P’s banking arm is potentially more elusive than previously
    envisioned. We reiterate our Hold recommendation and €3 target price.”

    CS Sept 2010

    “Publication of regulatory capital review a positive: On Friday afternoon
    (10 September), the Irish regulator published the results of its Prudential
    Capital Assessment Review (PCAR) for IPM. The main conclusion is that
    IPM is not required to raise any additional capital in order to meet the base
    case of 8% core Tier 1 (of which 7% must be common equity), but does
    need to raise an additional €145mn of Core Tier 1 capital to meet the ‘stress
    case’ scenario. More importantly, IPM confirmed that in the event of a
    restructuring of the bank/insurance operations as part of its bid for EBS, the
    group would require c€925m of incremental capital compared to the
    c€1080m we had previously estimated – this would imply a smaller overall
    rights issue of c€600-650m rather than our previously expected €750m. As a
    result, we raise our 12-month price target to €3.3 a share.
    One catalyst down: This review should be a positive for IPM as it provides
    clarity on the company’s capital position, and has lowered the expected size
    of any capital raising. The next potential catalysts remain 1) confirmation that
    the EU accepts IPM’s viability plan and 2) the success of the current bid for
    the smaller EBS building society.

    Intrinsic value well above the current share-price: Even assuming a
    capital raising in the region of €650m we see significant upside potential;
    Fair value for insurance operations is at least €1.8bn (1x EV) compared with
    a pro-forma market cap of c€1.1bn – giving at least 67% upside. With the
    bank recapitalised and moving back towards profitability in 2013
    (management target a 10% RoE for the bank), some value should attach to
    the bank, with upside rising to 100% if this is valued at 40% of tangible book.”

    I think the company had no friends at Euro level.

  15. John Corcoran Says:

    Hats off to David Went on his stewardship of this once great Irish company.
    Best wishes to him and his new friends at the Irish Times–the paper of record. Keep up the good work.

  16. John Corcoran Says:

    Michael Noonan is now wearing the Canadian jersey.–say goodbye to the Irish jersey. In matters of Church or State the man with the money carries the weight.

  17. John Corcoran Says:

    Minister Noonan said “War is good,freedom is slavery,ignorance is strength-Irish Life is bad ,Canada Life is good.

    Latest government press release.

  18. John Corcoran Says:

    Congratulations to the multi-million dollar salaried Allen Loney of GreatWest life in achieving the greatest deal of all times. The price paid ,will within a few years represent one years profit of Irish life.
    The mountie always gets his man. Hats off to the all concerned.

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